Alright everyone, good evening. I am Cindy Darling, Mayor of Walnut Creek and
welcome to the Tuesday, February 4th, 2025 regular meeting of the Walnut
Creek City Council. The City Council is conducting this meeting from the City
Council chambers. This meeting is being video streamed and can be viewed live
or later at the City's website. At this time, I'll ask our City Clerk if any
notification or request from virtual meeting participation have been received
by any members of the Council. Yes, Councilmember Francois has provided
notification requesting virtual meeting participation.
Thank you, city clerk.
Councilmember Francois, would you please address the council?
Yes, good evening, Mayor, and thank you.
I'm not feeling well this evening,
and so I'm asking to participate remotely
under the Just Cause provision of the Brown Act.
And I can assure you that I will have my video and audio on
throughout the meeting, and that there are no other persons
present in the room with me.
OK, and then I will just note for the record that we have a quorum
of council members present in the chamber.
Council member Francois has not exceeded the annual limits for virtual
participation and the city is providing a two way audio visual platform via Zoom.
And the webinar ID is eight seven four seven six nine six six zero nine three.
and the passcode is 186165 and we will be repeating that throughout the meeting.
Thank you very much and welcome virtual person.
As some attendees may be participating in their first Walnut Creek City Council
meeting I wanted to welcome everybody and talk briefly about the public
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into the record. And so now that we've finished all of the important
organizing stuff it's time for the Pledge of Allegiance. Please join me.
Pledge of Allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice.
Thank you. City Clerk Susie Martinez, would you please call the roll?
Councilmember Davini.
Here.
Councilmember Francois.
Here.
Councilmember Silva.
Here.
Mayor Pro Tem Will.
Here.
Mayor Darlene.
Here.
All right.
Next up on the agenda is a chance for us to present a proclamation
recognizing the month of February is American Heart Month.
And Venus Kay and a couple other representatives
from the American Heart Association are here
attendance to receive this proclamation, and I'd like to invite her up, and we'll have a little...
So this proclamation is honoring this as National Heart Health Month, and about 350,000 people
experience cardiac arrest outside of the hospital each year, some even at the Leisure Theater.
And about 70% happen at home, but only one in 10 can survive, and we need to make sure that we have
CPR, that people are aware of things.
And so I'm happy to present this award,
or this proclamation today.
I won't go through and read it all.
But I'll let Venus introduce you guys and give us the message.
Give us the, when do you call 911?
Why is this important?
Thank you so much, Mayor Darling.
I have my colleagues here.
I have, would you like to introduce yourselves?
I'm Gerin Brown with the Bay Area American Heart Association.
Hi, my name is Maddie Elbendosa,
also with the Heart Association and Walnut Creek resident.
I'm Victoria Target,
also part of the Bay Area American Heart Association,
and I also live in Walnut Creek.
Thank you all so much.
My name is Venus Key with the American Heart Association,
and we thank you for recognizing February
as American Heart Month this year,
and for acknowledging our mission and work
of saving lives from heart disease and stroke.
This year, as we move into the Heart Association's
second century of impact, we are especially focused
on building a nation of lifesavers that were all prepared
in our communities to react to a cardiac emergency
by calling 911 and knowing how to perform CPR.
Over 350,000 people experience out of hospital cardiac arrest
in the United States every year.
Currently, almost 90% do not survive.
That is why we have this opportunity and a bold goal
to double cardiac arrest survivors' rate by 2030.
And that's why we are encouraging people to act
and to use CPR to save lives of friends, loved ones,
and community members who would otherwise not survive.
As a Contra Costa County resident, myself, a parent,
and a member of the American Heart Association's Bay Area
team, several of whom are with me today,
I urge the people of Walnut Creek to learn CPR.
We did, and you can too.
We are also proud and honored to have served
the city of Walnut Creek through our support
of your tobacco retail license ordinance in 2021
and hosting our annual Heart Walk in Walnut Creek in 2024.
The American Heart Association
gratefully accepts this proclamation
and the city's continued support of this work.
Thank you.
Thank you guys very much for the work that you do.
It's so important for our community.
And my next proclamation is for Margaret Campos.
and I'm gonna read this one before we ask you
to get up here, because Margaret Campos,
and she did not make it rain tonight
just to make this more important.
She has spent countless hours volunteering time
to coordinate, promote, teach, and mobilize
the Walnut Creek Community Emergency Response Team,
otherwise known as CERT.
Since 2019, Margaret has served as the Walnut Creek
Community Emergency Response Team Program Manager.
Through her leadership during COVID-19,
that was a little bit of a thing,
And through her creation of a new CERT website,
Walnut Creek CERT YouTube channel,
and new training programs,
she was revamped the Walnut Creek CERT.
Through various and diversified trainings,
such as school active shooter drills,
traffic and crowd management,
utility safety for first responders,
American Red Cross shelter training,
home fire safety training,
workplace disaster preparation,
and evacuation support drills,
she has helped us prepare for emergencies
and disasters that may affect the community.
Through partnership with both Martinez & Concord,
Contra Costa Fire, Caltrans, FEMA, Zone Haven, PG&E,
and the Contra Costa County Department of Health,
Rossmoor and the Golden Rain Foundation
and the Trinity Center,
she has brought valuable training to the community
all over the place,
teaching skills like team organization, fire safety,
first aid, and light search and rescue.
And through Margaret's leadership and selfless commitment,
She has helped prepare the Walnut Creek community
for emergencies and disasters,
providing a great positive impact on the community.
And I, Cindy Darling, Mayor of Walnut Creek,
on behalf of Walnut Creek Council,
do want to recognize Margaret Campos
on the occasion of your retirement from CERT,
and thank you for everything.
So meet me up there.
Thank you so much.
All right, we're gonna do this one.
Sorry, I forgot to do this part.
I'm the new mayor.
still not like, anyway go ahead and thank you for everything you've done for us
and thank you thank you mayor darling and thank you City Council thank you
Wallen Creek Police Department chief Knox and our liaisons the cert programs
liaisons within the police department they've been so kind to me personally
supportive and and it's just been a great experience learning about disaster preparedness
and then bringing other people along. I appreciate this proclamation. I'm accepting it on behalf of
all of our Walnut Creek certs because you know there are people who years ago started this
program. These are people that taught me, people who have supported me. There are some that have
come tonight our emergency communications people are here our logistics people are
all these people who have maintained every year preparedness and who have taught their neighbors
and others how to remain prepared so thank you very much i'm going to still be a boots on the
ground cert i'm just not going to manage i'm still going to be an emergency communicator
and we just would encourage every person in the city of walnut creek it's not just about
having a go-bag, you need to have water, you need to have heavy items secured on
the wall, you need to have a family plan, and you can get training around the Bay
Area. Cert training is universal, so we encourage you to get certain training.
There may be a lapse here for a little while, but you can get it in many other
other cities. So thank you very much, I really appreciate that. Thank you and
thank you all who came to help tonight with both of these proclamations. Next on
the agenda is the consent calendar. Does any council member wish to pull any
item for discussion or does any staff member wish to pull an item? Yes, Mayor, I'd
like to pull item F. All right. Any other? All right. Does any member of the public
wish to... Yeah, I'd like to pull item E. So we are now dealing with A through D
as a consent calendar.
Does any member, I saw that, Kevin, I saw that.
Matt, you don't wanna pull the button?
Okay.
Does any member of the public wish to comment
on an item on the consent calendar, items A through D?
And as a reminder, each speaker will have two minutes
to make their remarks, written comments submitted before
but posted the website for public review
and are included in the record
but will not be separately read.
And just in case anybody needs it,
The ID number for the Zoom is 874-769-66093.
Passcode, 1-86-165.
Does anybody wish to address the, okay.
Motion?
Move to approve A through D.
Second.
Roll call, please.
Mayor Pro Tem Wilk.
Aye.
Council Member Silva.
Aye.
Council Member Davini.
Aye.
Council Member Francois.
Aye.
Mayor Darling.
All right, so now let's go and start with item E
from the consent calendar.
Okay, yeah, I just have a couple.
One is maybe a statement and the other a question.
So I was wondering, this is how we're preventing
like trip prevention by addressing the sidewalks.
And has that turned out to be like a cost effective measure?
How's that working out?
Good evening, Rich Payne, Public Works Director.
So the program has been definitely a success.
This consultant helps us sort of balance
the hazards in our community,
specifically related to concrete.
So that we have a replacement program
and we have a precision that comes in
and sort of shaves those trip hazards down.
And what we've done is we've divided
the city up into three sections,
and every three years we go through the entire city,
identify those hazards throughout,
and we'll go through and shave those down.
And Precision is a company
that we've been working with for a while.
We have a lot of success,
and we've seen a dramatic reduction in trip and fall cases.
So it's been a definite success,
and that's why we're gonna continue this program.
In addition to our every three years,
We do the entire city and inspect and shave.
We do the downtown every year,
just before our holiday season starts,
just because of the influx of pedestrians in our downtown.
And that has also proven to be a very effective way
to manage our sidewalks.
Great, thank you.
And then I had the instance just recently
of watching someone trip on something downtown,
and I brought it to your attention.
But if someone were like a citizen were downtown
or walking around on our sidewalks
or somebody else and they saw something like that
or a tripping hazard, what would be the way to report that?
So the most effective way to do that is to call Public Works.
And that number's 925-943-5854.
And you can talk to Kathy.
She will put the right people on the job.
Our street maintenance crews will respond within 24 hours,
temporarily mitigate that problem,
and then put it on our list for permanent repair.
All right, thank you, Rich.
You're welcome.
Did you, Rich, you were too fast.
One more quick question.
Thank you, I just wanna thank you
and the team at Public Works
for all the work that you do in the community.
I can attest to the efficiency
and the quick responses you all make
to trip and fall hazards
because I found a few over my 10 or 12 years of walking
almost every morning in the community.
I swear I'm your person tipping you off.
Always helpful, yes.
But I also want to commend their team
because they were out this morning in the rain.
I saw them putting up hazard bollards and signs
for curbs where the flooding was starting.
So tell them thank you.
Thank you, and I will definitely pass that message on.
Would you like to make a motion?
Yeah, OK.
I'll make a motion to pass consent item E,
mentoring into a public works agreement with Precision LLC.
I'll second that.
Let's have the roll call vote.
Council Member Davini.
Aye.
Mayor Darling.
Aye.
Council Member Francois.
Aye.
Council Member Silva.
Aye.
Mayor Pro Tem Will.
Aye.
Motion carries.
All right, and now item 2F, I think that was yours.
Yes.
Council Member Silva.
Thank you very much.
Item 2F is the awarding of a contract
for the road based failure repair and restriping project
on Ignacio Valley Road and this is fine,
I can't tell you the number of people that have asked me
in the last two weeks when we're going to do
the eastern half of Ignacio Valley Road
and I was so pleased yesterday when I read this
or the day before when I read this in the agenda
that it was happening now.
It's basically going to cover if I can get my,
both the east and west lanes of Ignacio Valley Road
from the eastern edge of the city
to basically Sports Basement in Heather Farm Park,
San Carlos Drive, but it also includes
some road traffic safety improvements.
So could you describe those please?
Sure, definitely.
So, some of our Boardmen, City Engineer.
Yeah, so you can kind of look at those two sections
a little differently.
The section between San Carlos,
which is where Heather Farm Park is, and Oak Grove,
we're going to be putting in a yellow stripe
next to the median, which is something that we did
during the last paving project for Ignacio
between San Carlos and Civic.
It just provides a little more space between vehicles
and the actual median itself.
And then it also provides a secondary improvement,
which is it narrows the lanes down,
which helps with facilitating a little bit
of slower movement by vehicles.
It makes it a little less comfortable to speed.
So similar treatment for that section.
The other nice thing about it is that on that section,
the striping or what we call striping,
but really the paint on the ground,
we don't have paint right now.
We have these little pucks.
That's an outdated version of how you demarcate travel lanes.
And we're going with the newer Caltrans standard,
which is lighter and brighter and more reflective
and at night and in the rain.
So that'll be really clear for folks.
Those things just deteriorate over time.
Our maintenance staff has been amazing at replacing it.
It's just an older material.
So that'll get, that'll be a part of it.
So higher visibility.
And then on the uphill section,
really that hilly section east of Oak Grove. We're really just doing more of
the base repairs, which is the paving work, but on the downhill section as
you're going westbound from Concord towards Walnut Creek, there is a right
turn lane that folks use to make this westbound right turn and then they'll
go up northbound on Oak Grove. And what we've heard from lots of residents and
what we've seen is, and we've also heard this from our police department as well,
is that people will make that right turn and then make a quick U-turn, which is an
illegal maneuver in that location, and so we're going to be putting in this
material called the tough curve, but it's basically a little yellow hump that has
a delineator, a little tall white cone attached to it, or I guess it would be
yellow cone, but it's the same treatment that Concord actually has just up the
way on Oak Grove, just north of Treat, so similar material that will be installing.
and then another piece is that we'll be changing the paint on the ground as you
make that right turn maneuver in the hopes that people will slow down as
they're going through it. Right turn slip lanes were identified as one of the
main issues at some of our intersections in our local roadway safety plans, so it
is a traffic safety improvement that we're looking forward to and it's just
kind of a test as we use these short-term materials. So I don't assume we're
starting tomorrow given the weather. What is the timeframe for the project and how
how long will it take?
Yeah, so long as weather clears up,
we're anticipating that we might be able to start
in late spring to early summer.
And we think that it'll be about a month
work of construction, but we have to slip into
whatever the contractor is able to slip us into
in terms of timeline, but we'll be through
certainly before the rainy season starts
in the next year or so.
And how will we let residents from the area
know when the work will occur so they can bypass it.
Yeah, so we're gonna try and reduce the impact
but anything that occurs on Ignacio Valley Road
is going to be impactful in some kind of way.
So we'll be notifying neighbors.
We'll also be using our communication channels,
Nextdoor, social media, and the like, so yeah.
Thank you.
Sure.
Thanks, Madar.
A couple questions.
You'd mentioned about the,
whatever is being installed, like Concord has,
to prevent U-turns?
I wasn't quite, I didn't quite understand
how what you were describing prevents a U-turn.
Yeah, so it's actually just kind of this physical,
vertical barrier, and so you can't,
I mean, you could run it over, I suppose,
but it would not be a good experience for drivers.
But it's like a tall, kind of,
we have these traffic cones everywhere that are taller,
and so it would restrict people from being able
to make a U-turn.
On Oak Grove.
On Oak Grove, that's right.
Just before the shade lens intersection.
Right, okay, thanks.
And then the other question is,
is this the same or different type of repaving down Ignacio
that we'd had a couple of years ago
that was between Civic and San Carlos?
Is this like completely redoing it all
or is it just the repair work?
Yeah, so this is what we call base repairs,
so we're just looking at the,
repairing these small sections of roadway,
they're really limited in length.
So it's not redoing the pavement of everything,
we're not gonna have clean new black pavement everywhere.
It's just these, yeah, it's just these small sections
where we think that there might be some structural failures,
and so we're trying to mitigate those
in advance of a future paving project that we can do,
which we do have slated for 2026,
is the design, we're starting the design for that
where we got some earmark, federal earmark
that we can still hopefully use.
That's what I had heard is like 2026 to 2027
somewhere in there.
Right, for the section from Oak Grove up towards Concord.
Right, okay, great, thank you.
All right, any more questions?
All right, anybody wanna do a motion?
Yeah, I will.
move to award the contract 2412, the Ignacio Valley Road
base failure repair and re-striping project
to MCK Services Incorporated.
Second.
Roll call vote please.
Council member Silva.
Aye.
Mayor Pro Tem Wilk.
Aye.
Council member Davini.
Aye.
Council member Francois.
Aye.
And Mayor Darling.
Aye.
Motion carries.
All right, that brings us to this portion of the meeting
as reserved for comment on items not on the agenda.
This is public communications.
Under the Brown Act, the council cannot act on items raised
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clarification or refer the item to staff consistent with section 9.5 of the city council handbook 30
minutes will be allocated this time for public communication for items not on the adjust
on the agenda additional time for public communication for items not on the agenda
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passcode 186-165, and if anybody wants to address us, please step forward to the podium with your
speaker card. Ladies and gentlemen, members of the Council, my name is Eric Wright. I'm a
resident in Walnut Creek, and a recent resident moved here a few months ago,
and figured I'd attend a few meetings to kind of get to know the affairs of the city,
and of relevance to something that was discussed last meeting. Last year I graduated from Berkeley
Law School, got a certificate in real estate law, and I wrote a paper on the builder's remedy,
so this is mostly directed at Councilman Davini, you had mentioned a builder's remedy project
on the building at the last meeting.
And the topic of my paper was it's not at all clear
that the builder's remedy is permissible
under the California Constitution.
But I would not advise challenging it
because the courts have given great deference to ATD
and the State of California.
But just two quick notes on the builder's remedy.
Number one, as Councilman Davini, these are kind of stuck
between a rock and a hard place because of delays
to the approving housing elements in 2023. There and was happy to welcome people. I am a member of the Cal Cities Environmental Quality Policy Committee. I was up in Sacramento about a week and a half ago. I'm trying to remember now. And we talked about it was our first meeting of the year. I've been on the committee now for six years and our objectives for this year. Probably for most years, actually, are strengthening climate change resiliency and strengthening infrastructure for sustainability. And the issues for 2020.
that have been identified that we'll be working on are well number one was
disaster preparedness and fire hazard zone mapping obviously very topical
greenhouse gas reduction fund water management legislation coastal
legislation clean energy and grid reliability and affordability CEQA
reform legislation we're hearing a lot of that throughout the state now and AB
I'm sorry, AB 98, which is the warehouse bill cleanup legislation.
So we'll be hearing a lot more about these.
Our next meeting with the committee is in March, and I'll be providing information
about that as we get closer.
We also had the Mayor and Mayor Pro Tem Commission chair meeting this last Friday.
This is a quarterly meeting with all the chair and vice chairs of our different commissions,
which is always great because they get to hear what's happening in the city related
their own commissions and then we're able to give them some insights into
what's happening at the city that they may not be aware of. So I don't know if
you have anything more to share on that but it's all when I was on commissions
that was great to be able to hear from the commission perspective because we
just don't get enough of that typically in our day-to-day lives. I this last
weekend on one of the days there was a JCRC sponsored banjo discussion for the
that's Bay Area network of Jewish elected officials. There is a lot of this
in the news. We're hearing a lot from constituents. Those elected
officials that are Jewish throughout the Bay Area, and I'm talking about mayors
and council and there are board members of schools, there's city attorneys, there
are a variety of different areas, we're all getting emails of people that are
worried about anti-Semitism in our communities. Whether or not it's existing
we're getting those emails. And so we discussed of how the JCRC can help to
provide information, talking points to cities and really help to coordinate
efforts so that we have consistent talking points among the different
cities. It's very helpful obviously we've had some very unfortunate circumstances
that have happened in these council chambers with zoom bombing and people
that have come in person to spread hate speech and to be able to have talking
points that we can then refer to when needed has been really helpful not just
me but for people that are across the city. So about 25 Banjo members were there at this
particular meeting and leading that I will be flying tomorrow. We have a Cal City City Manager
conference in Palm Springs and I know that our City Manager and Assistant City Manager will be
flying down to that and I'm flying down to be part of a session that I'm hosting on if hate
speech comes into your council chambers what can be done? What are the parameters? What has to be
be allowed and what are some of the ways that you can also do things to tempt
that situation down. So that is a session that I led at the city clerk Cal
City session a few months ago and I'll be doing that again tomorrow and I think
we'll probably be having about 480 or 90 city managers from across the state so
that information is getting out and that's my report. Thank you very much.
Okay so a couple things as mayor I did go to the new mayors and new council
members with the League of California Cities,
and that was really interesting.
I came on council in 2020 and there was no such thing then
because we were all sitting in our offices hiding.
So it was really good and also a good chance to get out
and talk to a lot of our fellow council members
from cities around us.
Matt Rinn is the new BART director for our area
and Matt and the general manager for BART reached out
and met with Dan and myself and talked about the relationship
between BART and the city, they reviewed their program
to put the fare evader proof gates up.
They are promising that those gates will be
in all the stations by the end of the year
and that should be a tremendous help
with the making BART feel safe.
And I think we all, those of us that ride BART
on occasion have recognized it is getting cleaner.
They are working hard at making it safe,
but those fare gates are gonna be huge for that.
And so we are gonna continue a discussion with them
about ways that Bart and the city can work together.
So that was really good to hear from him.
The quarterly, the other thing that happened
at the quarterly breakfast meeting
with our chairs of all our different commissions,
we are in the process of setting our city priorities
and we as the council will meet
and set those later this month.
We've asked all of our commissions
to give us their perspective
on what those priorities should be.
So we heard a lot of good detail,
really thoughtful input.
Some people were thinking about their area of responsibility
and how it works with others.
Others had, you know, the Youth Commission
had their perspective.
So it was really good to hear that
as we go into our priority setting.
With Congressman Desaulnier,
I was really glad to get a chance to introduce him.
We also had a really great new staff member
who was moderating that one.
And what I wanted to say when I was introducing him
is that we are Walnut Creek and we have a mission statement
that is to make our city safe and welcoming for everyone.
And I think we will continue to do
what we will continue to do.
And we hope that everything works out.
And I know that's a little Pollyannaish,
but that's what I hope.
A couple of things coming up.
State of the city is on the 20th of February.
It will be out at Shadelands.
This is a great opportunity to hear
everything that's going on in the city
will be unveiling our priorities for the two years,
plus answering a lot of questions.
Chief Knox will give an update on public safety.
And then the last thing I wanted to talk about
is the city is a member of MCE,
which is our electricity supplier
for the majority of the residents of the city.
And when we joined it in 2016,
it was with the hope that we could get a more renewable,
greenhouse gas friendly source of electricity.
And MCE has continued to drive for that.
The electricity being supplied by MCE
is between 60 and 100% renewable
as compared to only 33% for PG&E.
the cost that MCE is acquiring power for
is well below what PG&E is charging
when PG&E delivers it to the customers
and that charge from PG&E evens it out.
So basically you're paying about what you would get
from PG&E, but you're getting a much greener product.
And we are about 18 years ahead of MCE's goals
for greenhouse gas reduction, which is really great.
So that's the good news.
The challenging news is that there are some changes
going on in the renewable market in California.
Power availability, especially renewable power,
is gotten very much in demand.
The cost has gone up.
There have been some regulatory and policy changes.
One of the other things that we're seeing
is that a lot of the new solar resources
are going into areas where there is not a lot of demand.
So it requires the electricity to travel
across the grid a fair distance.
And there's a number of places where there are bottlenecks.
And so when those bottlenecks come into play,
MCE is still obligated to pay for the power
that the supplier is trying to put on the grid,
but because we can't get it from there to where the demand is,
we have to buy power a second time.
So we're working with PG&E to find ways
to reduce those transmission delivery problems.
Let's see, what else is going on?
There's a bunch of different things going on.
The good news is that we do not anticipate MCE
needing to raise rates.
We have not raised them since 2023.
We looked at our investment report,
our strategic plan for energy and the draft budget
for the year we'll adopt the budget in April.
And with all of that, it does not look like
we will need to raise rates,
which is a good thing for so many of our families
that are really struggling with their power costs.
So we'll more updates as we go forward,
but that is my report.
So now we are ready for the part
of this thing where I have to find.
Next on the agenda is the closed session
relating to the conference with labor negotiators.
And does anybody, any member of the public
wish to comment on the closed session item?
Everybody would have two minutes, all of you, two minutes.
Anyone?
Is there anybody on Zoom?
All right, seeing no speakers in the city council chambers,
we will reconvene in closed session
in the second floor council members
and thank you all very much for coming.