Welcome everyone so first we are going to do a roll call. It is the March 18th
Design Review Commission meeting. Can we have a roll call please? Thank you Vice
Chair. Commissioner Newsom. Commissioner Prose. Vice Chair Riley. Here. Commissioner
Commissioner Basting is absent tonight.
She let us know that last week and Commissioner Case had to recuse from this item.
So we have three and we have a quorum.
Great.
All right.
So next is the consent calendar.
Is there anything that we have for the consent calendar?
Nothing on the agenda, nor are there any recommendations to move anything to consent.
Great.
Next we have public communications. This portion of the meeting is reserved for comment on items that are not under the, on the agenda. Is there anything anyone here to speak on those things that are not on the agenda.
All right.
Next we have disclosure of ex parte communications has anyone on the commission spoken to anyone about this project? No.
No, not myself either.
Okay. Let's get into the public hearing session. So tonight's meeting is to look at the design
review for a new animal daycare, and this is a study session. Good evening, commissioners.
Simmer Gil, Senior Planner with the City. We are here tonight for a study session for the
the proposed Joy Bound Animal Daycare building
that will be located at 2890 Mitchell Drive.
So tonight with the applicant's team with Joy Bound,
we have Susan Lee Vic, Cheryl McKenna, Scott Corny
and with the project design team,
which is the project architect and the remaining team
is Greg Boua, Michael Vidra and Jesse Moran.
And myself included, we're happy to answer any questions
after this presentation.
Just to quickly orient you with the site,
it is located at the corner,
the existing Joy Bound facility is located
at the corner of Oak Grove Road and Mitchell Drive,
and the site is zoned a business park.
It is roughly 10 acre site,
and the surrounding area consists primarily,
the immediate area consists of office and commercial uses,
And there are residential uses on the other side
of Oak Grove Road.
And here are just some photos and a layout
of the existing site.
And this is a non-profit organization
which does provide animal rescue and shelter services.
And it was formally known as the Our Animal Rescue Foundation
facility.
It's now called Joy Bound, but essentially the same operations.
It's carrying over the same operations.
And the new 12,000 square foot building will be located.
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Yes, so this is the location for the proposed daycare.
And this is roughly 1.5 acres of vacant land
along the Mount, is facing the Mount Diablo, sorry, no,
Mitchell, the Mitchell Drive frontage.
And the existing facility does currently operate
11 programs that includes dog and cat training,
food share, pet adoptions, other community services,
as well as providing service animals to military veterans
that reside in the Bay Area.
And so tonight the project before you is a new twelve thousand five hundred and seventy seven square foot animal daycare building
That will also include outdoor training areas for outdoor exercise yards
As well as a new covered trash enclosure that would be dedicated to this building
new parking stalls are also proposed and
Tree removals that consists of ten trees
new landscaping with 55 new trees that will be installed and new building signage.
So tonight the Design Review Commission will
review the project, provide any design related comments or feedback
for the design review as well as the conditional use permit
which this is a cultural institution use, the existing operations and they're essentially
expanding the existing use on site.
So, what we're looking for tonight is feedback on the design, as well as a recommendation
to the Planning Commission if the Commission tonight feels the project is sufficiently
developed.
So, here is a look at the entire site.
What I've highlighted in blue for you is the existing Animal Rescue Foundation, and here's
that Veterans Services building that was approved, I believe, in 2016 by this Commission.
And so tonight, what we're reviewing is this is just a closer look at that location in
reference to this is the entire site, the yellow area is the new location for the building.
This is just a closer look at that.
And I wanted to point out that the existing drive aisle or access will remain the same.
And from the point from here, this is the existing drive aisle and then they will extend
into the new site, creating this driveway access that connects to the rest of the site.
And it goes, it circulates across the entire site.
And the new parking stalls are located right along here as you enter the site.
And I believe there's a new entry gate that's being proposed and perimeter fencing,
as well as ornamental metal fencing
that will be along the project frontage facing Mitchell Drive.
And here's a look at the proposed elevations
or renderings.
This is the front entrance of the building
that we'll be facing internally into the existing site.
The primary material does consist of cement stucco plaster.
And these renderings depicted as a gray color,
but it's really like a light or a cream color,
and I believe the material board
is being passed around to the commissioners.
And then the accent colors consist of beige and brown,
that'll be along the base of the building,
as well as along the primary entrance of the building.
Metal panel accents and dark frame windows
are also proposed, as well as a recessed entry
with metal panel and canopy above it.
And the architectural articulation,
as well as the materials,
do complement the existing buildings on site.
And here is the elevation
that's facing the adjacent property.
Again, the same colors, the articulation, the recessed.
Windows and the canopies are carried along
to all of the elevations.
Here is the west elevation. This faces the back of the site, which would be looking towards that
existing Veterans Services building that's located in the back with the parking lot.
And this is the east elevation, which is facing Mitchell Drive. And as part of this project,
tree removals are also being requested. There are a total of 13 trees that are being removed.
Up these 13 trees, 3 have been approved by the city arborist as due to the size species and the
poor health of the trees. And I did want to point out that all of the trees being removed tonight
are merely landscape type species and none are highly protected species. And I have bubbled
the trees that are being preserved on-site and off-site with the green bubble. And here is the
proposed landscaping plan, a total of 55 new trees will be planted throughout the
site, and they range from 15 gallon to 24 inch box, and there is a variety
consisting of maple, crepe myrtles, Brisbane pistach trees, and live oak trees
will be planted along the project frontage, again facing Mitchell Drive. And
here is the proposed signage. What you see here are the two wall signs that
that are proposed near the primary entrance.
Here is the sign that you see.
I don't know why my clicker's not.
And then this is the other sign
that you see right here on the rendering.
And I believe the one sign is non-illuminated
and the primary joy-bound sign will be illuminated.
And the total sign area for all three signs combined
is 61 square feet.
And it does fall within the parameters
of what the city sign ordinance allows
is well below what would be allowed for this building.
And here is that sign on the other elevation
that's facing, I believe it's the south elevation,
facing the adjacent property.
And here they have the, it's right there.
And I also wanted to point out
what you see on the renderings is what the signs will,
the location of the signs.
I could go back to the other one.
So this way, if you notice the renderings for the signage
up top depict it a little lower,
but it's actually gonna be placed higher.
And so the sign renderings will be updated to reflect that.
And so as part of this project,
it is subject to CEQA or environmental review
that is currently under review with the city
as the city is waiting for several studies
as the traffic study and some information on noise to really determine the determination of because
the project is not exempt from CEQA. So really to determine would this have any impacts or would it
not have any impact so we're still that's still under review. This project isn't exempt because
it's over 10 acres so it did not qualify for an infill CEQA exemption. And the project does comply
with the city's business park development standards as far as height, as under 40 feet,
and it meets all of the setbacks along the front, side, and rear, as well as the lot coverage
requirements, and it's also designed to meet the city's design review standards and guidelines,
and I believe that checklist is included in your packet tonight, and that is, I think,
attachment nine of your packet. And the project also meets the parking requirements. There are
existing parkings and for this project parking stalls and for this project 42
additional stalls would be required and there are a total of 207 stalls on site
where 197 would be required so they're over parked they're providing
additional parking beyond what is required and the project would also be
subject to the public arts requirement I believe the applicants team has been
working with the Public Arts Manager to really see if they there's a way they
could provide public art on site. Again we could let the applicant speak more on
that if because we haven't received any anything as far as a submittal but I
believe there's been some discussion. And with that staff does recommend that the
Design Review Commission review and comment on the following topics that are
listed on this slide as well as provide a positive recommendation to the
Planning Commission to move this project forward.
And that is all I have, but I'm happy to answer any questions.
Any questions?
No?
Okay.
Okay.
Thank you.
Is there a presentation from the applicant or ...
No.
Okay.
Introduce yourself.
Good evening.
My name is Greg Bua with GPA Strategies Group, the architect, and then tonight I have with
me the representatives from ownership, Susan Lee Vic. She's the CEO, Cheryl McKenna the CFO
and then Scott Corny as project consultant. And then we have members from the design team,
Michael Vidra is the civil engineer and then Jesse Moran is the representing the landscape architect.
Thank you commissioners people have questions I'll start with some questions I mean
these are these are design these are going to be addressed to you you're the architect right
yeah so like um basically color so the the it's not gray the reeds were gray but it's more tan
I can see now brown it's kind of distinct from the existing campus the existing campus is
I don't like the colors really, they're yellow and orange but they're really different.
I mean, how do you, how can you unify the campus a little better so it reads all together?
The images that showed the yellow are older images, that's what it used to look like.
Okay.
The Joy Bound went through a process with the city and changed the yellow to the color
you have there.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
All right.
This is matching the color that is out there now.
No issue.
All right, so then, yeah, we didn't go.
And when I Google Earth myself, it's like I remember what it looks like very clearly
because I got a dog there, so yeah, so it's the facility is somewhat easy to miss from
Mitchell and from the broader Oak Grove corridor.
How are you approaching visibility and arrival for first time visitors?
There is an existing monument sign right now, right next to the driveway, I think on the
north side of the driveway.
So there will be that signage and then the, let's see, yeah, right here, there's an existing
monument sign right now.
And then the signage that Simmer was pointing out on the building, the Joy Bound sign is
up high right here on this side and then up high right here.
so that should be visible to anyone driving by.
I mean, I'd say this is more of a comment,
but that's all on Mitchell, right?
Most of the furniture is on Oak Grove.
It just seems like it'd be better
to have some measure of visibility on Oak Grove.
OK, yeah, right now the only entrance is off of Mitchell,
and I think I believe along Oak Grove.
You can see the building, but you're right,
there is no signage that I'm aware of on that side.
All right, okay.
Third thing is the building hierarchy.
So this building is gonna be the first thing you see
as you enter that driveway.
Is it intended to be the entrance of the whole campus?
Do you want folks who are coming for the first time
to actually show up at the entrance to this new facility,
or are you trying to direct them to the back?
And how are you directing them to wherever you want to go?
Yeah, when they drive in, they will see this building
initially as they pull in on the left.
And if they go down a little bit further
to look for parking or whatnot, they
will see the main facility.
It's very visible from this main existing driveway.
OK, how about that crossing, that pedestrian crossing?
Why there?
We did it there, because that is where the handicap stalls were.
So it made sense to the accessible path of travel.
Right now, it's along this north side of the drive aisle.
And so we continue that accessible path
across the lane right there.
And then right there is the main entrance.
And so that, is that, would there be any instance
where somebody would want to go
from one's facility together?
Or maybe would you take the animals across the street
to exercise them?
I don't think the animals would go across the street.
You may have staff going back and forth possibly
between buildings.
Yeah, yeah, okay.
So fencing, so the fencing is arguably
as there's as much fencing as there is building.
So do you wanna just kind of walk us through
what the fencing's gonna look like?
Yeah, so both the, any walls or fencing,
we're mimicking again what's already onsite.
There are a series of walls and fences
around the exercise yards here.
The yards are, we didn't do one massive yard,
we broke it up into four different yards.
and so you've got perimeter walls that go around that,
both to screen the dogs and then also for noise.
Those walls are CMU with cement plaster finish
painted to match the building,
just like the other walls that are out there right now.
And then along the street frontage,
there is a perimeter wall that is set 25 feet back
and that, we wanted to soften that one up
being along the street frontage,
and so that one is only four feet tall.
Again, CMU with cement plaster finish,
and then there is a three foot fence
that is mimicking fencing that's already on site
on top of that wall.
And that's only in the front on Mitchell?
Correct, that wall goes in the front along Mitchell.
And then what does that fabric or whatever look like?
Is it like vinyl coated or is it the metal on top of the wall?
It's just a metal fence that's,
it's a decorative steel,
not mesh, but like bar grates that is on the front.
Along the side of the property
is a black coated chain link fence.
Okay.
Again, that's also on site in various places.
Okay.
And the wall, I'll just point,
I'll mention too that the,
another thing that we did with the wall fence combination
along the front here, you know, it set 25 feet back
and so it is fully landscaped in front.
There are four large coastal live oaks
that are gonna be planted along here,
along with shrubs and various ground cover.
I mean, can we see what that fence looks like
on the Mitchell front edge?
It is on the landscape plan.
I don't know if there's a way to pull that up.
I'll tell you what she...
Or you could describe it.
The landscape person's here, right?
So you're familiar with the existing site.
Yeah.
And that has a low stucco wall
kind of around the outside edge.
And so that is very similar to the base, right,
of this wall fence combo that's running
along the Mitchell Road frontage.
So it's basically a, I believe it's a four foot stucco base
with what's called an orso grill topper on it.
And the orso grill, you can see on the existing site
around towards the back as you come along Oak Grove,
you can see this kind of slightly see through
kind of metal mesh.
There's a panel of that that runs along the top
of the stucco wall on the Mitchell Road frontage.
So it matches.
So it matches, it's pulling from the materials
and the restaurants from the existing site.
And then the stucco color is gonna match
the building somewhat?
Yeah.
There's a thumbnail detail I might add on sheet L1.0?
Yeah, I saw that, it just wasn't clear to me
that it matched, so that's not an issue.
And then on the fencing that goes around the yard,
is that full height CMU?
Yes, so there's a little bit of a layering that happens,
are the full height CMU on the outside edges
and then the yard themselves inside of that
are the black vinyl coated.
So, it's a bit of-
Inside, okay, so inside.
Yeah, inside that.
That doesn't matter,
because the public doesn't see it, right?
It's gotta work.
Matters to the dogs.
Right?
Matters to the dogs, yeah.
Dogs are important, I'll tell you.
How about lighting?
There's 25 foot pole lights.
Are those all the way out in the street?
I mean, how do you modulate it
so that it doesn't spill off the site?
They will have built-in shields and cut-offs
that direct everything down.
We won't have any spillage onto the street.
The 25-foot height is matching what's already on site.
I believe there are white pull lights,
and so we're matching the same.
Last one's a landscape question.
So I mean, the project screening relies heavily
on landscaping along Mitchell Drive.
Can you elaborate how the landscape
creates a coherent frontage and identity, not just screening?
So two parts to that, right?
How does it create a coherent identity?
So we were just talking about that fence, right?
The combo fence along Mitchell.
And the rendering here shows kind of a uniformed massing
of color underneath those live oaks along the front.
But it's actually two different species
that mimic the greens, light and dark greens
that happen in those coast live oaks.
So the larger shrubs are along the back, along the wall,
stepping down to Arctis Daphilus,
which is like a very low form of manzanita.
So it's really pulling from the landscape ecology
that you see across your city,
and it's relatively native or indigenous to the land itself.
So it's continuing some of the look
that happens around the existing facility,
but harkening more towards the streetscape landscape
that you have along the adjacent roadway.
Nice, and then it looks like the stormwater's
kind of a work in progress.
It is. It's here.
Yeah.
Gotta figure out what you gotta do.
How are you, how would you deal with bioretention
or whatever you're doing?
Are you planting the swales or what are you up to?
We do intend to plant in the swales.
And as I understand, we would probably irrigate those lightly
just to make sure that the species that are in there
can tolerate the variations that happen throughout the year.
Smart, yeah.
All right, that's good, thanks.
Thank you.
Go ahead, you're up.
Thank you, I've got a few questions.
some of them parallel, Commissioner Newsom's comments.
Onto the signs and kind of being on site,
you've got three buildings on this campus now.
Is there intended to be any wayfinding signage
that may come to kind of point you
in what direction what building to go to?
Is that currently an issue now
in terms of just the A and B being on site?
Yeah, I'm sorry.
Hi, Cheryl McGinn, I'm the CFO and COO.
We are definitely incorporating wayfinding into this.
Right now, we don't have comprehensive wayfinding,
so we use a lot of A-frames
with some nice, printed adoptions this way,
training that way, clinic this way.
So wayfinding will be something that my team
has been waiting very long to happen
and very excited to have added to this project.
Okay, will it be part of this submission in the end?
Does it have to be?
No, that's interesting, I don't know.
I don't have an answer.
Does it have to be?
There's a question.
We're gonna comment that it does.
Okay, okay.
Yeah, that could be a comment.
Sure, we can make that happen.
Okay.
As long as we get some wayfinding,
We'll do what you want.
Additionally, one of the renderings showed plantings in front of one of the Kennel walls,
Kennel CMU walls.
And the site plan does show kind of vegetated beds in front of those CMU walls.
Does that planting continue around the building proper, the CMU walls, all sides of the building?
The initial rendering, I guess, is the one that's from Mitchell on the left side of the
building.
There's plantings in front of the wall.
Yes.
as you go, as you're onto the site along the driveway,
well really, I guess the north and the west sides
is that there are planting areas.
Will there be plantings on those walls as well
or those just be stucco?
My understanding is that there are plantings
on those walls as well.
Okay. Yeah.
Question for the architect.
Any special detailing in terms of control joints
or controlling of, you know, climbing plants on those
to make sure that walls stay as integral,
you know, it stays, has longevity?
I'm sorry, say again.
Any special detailing in terms of controlling
the stucco in its movement and the involvement of plants,
just make sure those walls don't
crack some things at that time?
Yeah, because they have some length to them,
there'll be expansion joints or control joints.
So, thank you.
There are a number of surface drains
for washing down things like that.
Are those connected to the sanitary sewer
or are those connected to the biofiltration facility?
Michael with the civil engineer speak the a number of the kind of watch on drains that around the facility
Are those connected directly to the sand retrieval to storm sewer or they dump into the bioretention facility?
They're gonna dump into the bioretention facilities. So the new ones coming off the ones coming off the roof
Yes
Yeah
Those are gonna overland and or underground still to be determined but the ones that are close
Overland and then dump into the bioretention for and what about surface drainage walkways first?
Yeah, those will dump into the storm water treatment facilities as well, okay
And again, as it was pointed out, those are still a work in progress. But the idea is we've we've got them on there. Okay
And I also know it's my last question. I noticed on the site plan. There are new roadway gates
The kind of tie into that wall is you know, looks like there may also pedestrian gates. That's as you're bringing in wind, but
The the vehicle gates is that is there purpose for those specifically?
security otherwise?
Yes, I'll jump back in.
We've had quite a bit of challenges with security.
Less so since they've raised the vacant JPG building
next door, but we've had a lot of gaff siphoning,
people ripping open electric areas
to get places where I guess they could charge their phones.
So the intention is those gates will be opened
during the day, but we do wanna close our campus at night
and especially help protect our fleet.
And we've had some vandalism to our solar panels too.
People, you know, probably to get teenagers
throwing stuff up on there and stuff.
So just trying to mitigate that as much as possible.
Okay, great.
And I would just ask to make sure
the fire department is aware of those on the drawings
so they have access to the buildings if needed.
Okay, all right.
That's all I have.
Yeah, they're aware and they'll have Knox boxes.
Great, thank you.
Hi, just a couple of questions.
One, and again, it's that signage thing again,
when you showed the signs for the new building,
there was nothing on there that said
that it was for like pet daycare or things like that.
I know that you said you're gonna be working on wayfaring.
So I've spent a lot of time going to ARF,
or Joy Bound, and it's very confusing
to know which building to go to.
So I just wonder, was there a reason
that you didn't put on this building,
it says Pet Care Center,
but that seems rather vague to me.
No, I hear you.
And that was actually kind of a holding spot.
We actually now have since this was put together,
we've obtained a, or secured,
I shouldn't say obtained a donor to name the building.
So that was kind of a placeholder.
So it actually would be called the Liberty Center.
They named it after their dog, Liberty.
So it'll be the Liberty Center Boarding Daycare
and Behavioral Clinic, so.
Fantastic, yeah, perfect.
Okay, the next thing I wanted to just ask about
is the issue of noise.
It seems like you guys put in things to mitigate noise,
and can you just talk a little bit through
what that noise is or how it might affect the neighbors?
So, as you know, we've been around for,
but it'll be 35 years in June,
and we're pretty well known
for not being a noisy, raucous organization.
However, there will be, in this particular area,
more dogs outside during the day in one place
than we normally have.
So hence, some of those, the walls, the berms, et cetera,
just to try and make sure that we can continue
to be our nice noiseless neighbor reputation
and keep that in stock.
we are aware that it's slightly different in the fact that we'll have a number of dogs outside
at a time in our exercise yard, which we don't generally have 20 dogs at a time right now, so
that's kind of what we're trying to make sure we don't want to be the noisy neighbor and everybody
doesn't like us anymore. Perfect, and then I have another question sort of along those lines. So
in this new area you're going to be using it during the daytime, is that correct? Yes. And then
can you talk a little bit about what the surface material is going to be and shade in respect to
that? Because I know that on the existing you have a lot of mature trees that provide shade and
that's not something that I see here. I think I can at least start that question. Yeah. So you can
see the on this particular plan the squares with the dashes oh maybe I can
yeah no I see them so those are shade structures that are cantilevered out
over the the yards themselves the exercise yards okay so they are they
create solid patches of shade but intermittent shade and they're
definitely important as the adjacent trees have the opportunity to grow in
and provides to augment the shade provided as well.
My understanding is that these are astroturf surfaces.
Yeah, so that they can be cleaned
and they can be resettled as needed.
They're also softer for dogs who care about that.
And so they both give a sense of kind of a grass feel,
but they can also be washed down.
OK.
Yeah.
Did that answer your question?
Yeah, it did.
I guess my question is what if it's a day like today and the astroturf is too hot for
the dogs to be on?
So we also do a lot of fields and with fields we don't have the opportunity to provide shade
structures like this.
So the shade structures themselves are an opportunity to keep the surfacing cool as
well.
Okay.
Go ahead.
ahead. The artificial turf that's been selected is specifically designed for
dogs and to stay cool. The turf is meant to be cool, it's got a sub base and
sub drainage system that's meant to keep it cool and so it's meant to stay cool
even on on hot sunny days. So that in combination with the trees and with the
the sunshades, that's how that's all getting handled.
OK.
And just to add, we have existing exercise fields
out there now that are the astroturf.
And on some days, it gets really hot.
Even having a little bit of shade and stuff is enough.
We just hose them down with the, take the dogs out for a while,
bring them back in, spell them, hose it down again.
OK.
Great.
Thank you.
And then my last question, I guess, is for the city.
I'm curious as to what is being developed.
Do we know what's being developed on the old JGI site?
So which is what's gonna be directly west of here?
You're speaking about the site that was approved
for the Apartments for Senior Living, that one?
is that it's just directly, so it's like.
Directly adjacent.
Directly adjacent.
Yeah, that property is for sale.
We have held meetings with several potential purchasers,
but I do believe it's still for sale.
Okay, so we don't know what's going, yeah.
We don't.
All right.
It is, it does have a PD zoning for,
specifically for residential use.
Oh, it does.
By family residential use for seniors.
Okay, so Mari, great, thank you.
Those are all my questions.
I do have one additional question.
This will obviously be a little more
of a water-intensive project.
Any thought to cost-benefit analysis of code review
of using stormwater or rainwater collection?
That through the course of wash down things
that this may be of benefit to the facility.
I'll share that the, you can't see it on here,
but on the canal, a trail runs on our,
I don't know what this is, south, north, thank you,
north side, and we did at one point have a pump
that we would use to help pull from there
to mitigate the other water usage.
That pump has not been in working order
for several years now, so we're trying to raise some money.
It's significant to replace it,
but that is my facility manager's great hope
is that we can get that pump working again.
So yeah, we're thinking about it,
not just in terms of this, but the whole campus.
Okay, but nothing in terms of rainwater collection,
storage, reuse on site.
No, but it has, we never consider it
because it is typically so expensive
and just such an outlier that it would be a discussion
that maybe I would start to have with Joy Bound
and Cheryl to see, hey, there's some ideas,
Potentially for it, but it's you know in California
It's only you can only collect rainwater for certain amounts
And then it's just a big box sitting out there that doesn't do anything for you for a while, but right something to look into
Yeah, thank you
Thank you very much
any comments
Public comments, thank you. Is there do we have any public comments?
No, we don't okay
All right, we're gonna close the public hearing
commissioner comments
Yeah
super supportive of the institution like I said I got got my own dog there it's you've been a
great member of the community so thank you I support the project um what you're trying to do
I think it's cool um I think that said I mean just just a few comments um I'm sure this is
going to come as part of the environmental review but but I'll say it I mean look at the acoustics
in the walls. You're going to be right up against the property line and, you know,
kennels, because you're going to have kennels now. You're going to hear them. So that's
something the walls have to do. I'm actually happy to see that the walls adjacent to where
the dogs are is taller. Didn't pick that up. So that's why I asked the question. So just
look at the acoustic with relation to the walls. You know, it doesn't, obviously, full
cut-off lights are as important I think it might be on there but if not that's a
comment just like identity right now the identity of the whole site is is kind of
weak I'm happy to see have that sign up front I think it's gonna be really
important that you add some way finding as you as you drive on to the site you
talk about traffic you know it's possible I know there's not a ton of
people are gonna come screaming it out of here but you know it'd be good from a
vehicular level to have some wayfinding so that people know which building to go
to. And that's it. Thank you. I'll second Commissioner Newsom's comments about
welcoming more opportunities for pets in the community. I have two libraries myself not
from Joy Bound, but they shouldn't be re-joyed to our lives.
And also well as on the wayfinding, you know, this can certainly be something which is kind
of multi-level, maybe your communications to, you know, people who use facility frequently
and frequently, their communications come in yellow, go to yellow building, the communication
of the text comes in green, and there's ways you can weave, you know, marked materials
and the building identification maybe together more.
They're not quite so literal, but then again,
that may be through your study is what needs to be done,
but I'm sure there are opportunities
that will make that work and I welcome the project.
As I said before, I am a cat person, not a dog person,
and have done cat rescue for many years
and brought many cats to get fixed.
And I really appreciate your support
of all of the creatures.
I think it's a great project, again, for the third well mentioning. The wayfinding and the signage,
I think, is really important. Again, it's always been an issue with the site, so
this seems to be the opportunity that you can really work on that. The only other comment I
would make is I know that you probably don't want to put a six-foot wall along that side,
whereas there's that vacant lot and the housing is going to go in. But I really do think that
in the desire to make that a desirable piece of land, if you could maybe have the plants be
denser there or higher there, just really layering on the sound mitigation along that edge. So the
edge that sort of parallel to Oak Grove I think would be really valuable for the
community as a whole. So that's my only additional comment. Okay, it looks like
it looks like there's support times three. Right? And a couple of issues
region consensus it sounded like everybody found can or everybody agreed
with way finding and building identification seem to be a primary issue, good.
Also look at acoustics, one way or another, yep, okay, show, maybe provide cut sheets
if they haven't already for cut off shielded lighting and for sight, for the sight, specifically
the pole signs, I mean pole lights, yep, let's see.
And those are those those are the consensus items that I've got listed.
Did I miss anything?
Is there anybody that doesn't doesn't agree with any of those things?
Do we have consensus?
Okay.
Excellent.
Thank you guys for coming.
Moving on.
Moving on.
This is a time for commission considerations.
This portion of the agenda is for items not required to be publicly noticed, but where
a formal staff presentation, question answer period,
public input or discussion among commissioners is helpful.
We already did that.
Are there any commission member
or staff reports or announcements?
The only report that I have
is that the Design Review Commission agendas
are looking, they're empty for the coming months.
So I'm not sure why,
But more than likely, something will show up.
But right now, there's nothing on there.
All right.
Okay.
There's a few out there bubbling.
All right, well, if that's all,
I'm gonna adjourn the meeting.
Okay.
640, yeah, over.