Good morning. We are going to call the audit and finance committee of Metro link or June 14th
2024 to order at 9 a.m.
morning, chair chair Burksen
Many members just a reminder for all those both in the audience and always be aware of your environment
So if we had an event of the fire alarm activation, I'm gonna ask everyone to commonly collectively go downstairs
Next year, we're going to exit the building and stage in front of the Metro customer service
and wait for instructions.
The rear vent of an earthquake, I'm going to have everyone drop, take cover, wait till
the shaking stops, and then do an assessment of whether or not evacuation is necessary.
In the event of a situation requiring first aid, I will be your first aid provider.
I will ask you to pay me in the contact, Metro security, and go contact EMS.
And then finally, in the event of an attack, I will remind everyone to run, hide, and fight.
For those fathers out there who are enjoying praise and admiration from your family this weekend. I wish you happy
Very good. Thank you. And with that Frank Castellan will also be leading us to in today's pledge
Place your hand over your heart
Repeat after me. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands
one nation under God
invisible liberty and justice for all
Thank you very much, and we are now on item four roll call
director Middleton
Vice chairman Callan
director do tray
here
director Nguyen
director Murphy here director Tremblay
here director Krekorian
director Najarian
Yeah
director O'Connor
director Hughes Leslie
Chair Burksen here. We do have a quorum present. Excellent
Okay, we will move to public comments. Did we receive any public comments?
I have not received any written public comments or any requests to speak. Okay, we will move to item 6 the regular calendar
This is the approval of the meeting minutes for May 10th
2024
This is going to be an action item. Do we have any comments or
clarifications from any colleagues
We have a motion to move it
Second Murphy, okay
a roll call vote, please
I share McCallan. Yes, director Murphy
Yes, director Tremblay
abstain due to absence. Okay
director Najarian
Yes chair Burks in yes that motion carried with the director Tremblay abstaining and just to clarify or give anybody the chance
Were there any public comments on that item?
Seeing none we will move to 6b the adoption of the fiscal year 20 24 20 25 budget
approval of the annual contract authority and salary resolution and approval of operating forecasts for the four years fiscal year
2025 26 through fiscal year 20 28 29
This is going to be presented by Arnold Hackett the chief financial officer
members of the committee. The authority is required under the joint powers authority
to adopt a budget for the succeeding fiscal year no later than June 30th of each year.
This proposed FY 25 budget consists of operating state of good repair and new capital projects
budgets. It is consistent with our goals to provide affordable, dependable and high quality
service for our riders. A service which will provide all of Southern California
with transportation to meet their commuting, business, and leisure needs
while embracing equity, environmental consciousness, and growth of our
communities and businesses. Next slide please. Our challenges remain the
same since the pandemic. Our operating expenses are outpacing our ridership and
in our revenue. We continue to depend on our member agencies for 80% of our operating expenses.
With this, we continue to focus on our cost efficiencies. Next slide.
This chart shows our operating funding sources. The green represents the member agencies provided
support and grants, while the dark blue represents the operating income sources for Metro Lane,
the majority being fare box. Next slide please. The budget assumptions are hybrid
optimized service schedule, no fare increases, a 3% merit pool, 3% COLA,
support for the mini bundle mobilization and support for the student adventure
pilot pass. Next slide please. So our consultants, Sperry Capital and KPMG, are updating our
ridership and revenue forecast to better reflect the results of the optimized service for
FY25 through FY29. So we'll be sharing that at a later date. Next slide. Next slide. The
proposed FY25 operating budget, the operating revenue of $68 million is an increase of $14
million above FY24. Our total expenses of $332 million is an increase of $26 million
above FY24. The operating expenses includes the hybrid optimized service, which is roughly
$10 million for the mini bundle mobilization and then support for the student adventure
paths pilot. The support required from our member agencies is $264 million and that's
an increase of $12 million above FY24. Remember this $264 includes the $10.3 million of the
for the mini bundle mobilization.
Next slide, please.
This chart just shows the FY 25 operating support
by member agency.
Next slide.
And this again shows the support of the 264 million dollars
by the member agencies.
Next slide, please.
Next slide.
State of good repair is critical to the safety
and the effective management of our system operating costs.
Remember, if we don't take care of it with state of good repair,
it will end up being an operating cost force.
The proposed FY 25 capital program budget,
state of good repair is 160 million, an increase of 30 million above FY 24.
And the new capital is 5.9 million, a decrease of 14 million below FY 24.
Next slide please.
This slide shows the distribution of the capital program request
by each member agency.
Next slide.
Next slide please.
Next slide.
Here this shows the total funding request of 430 million
from the member agencies which includes both operating
and capital programs.
Your package includes details of all the items
that I've discussed.
Next slide.
Next slide.
Included in the FY25 budget, we are presenting
and requesting contract approval for the agency's annual contract
in the amount of 26.4 million.
Funding for this amount is included in the FY25 budget.
The requests for the contract authority
on our large vendors are not included here
and they will be requested separately.
Things like our equipment maintenance,
Our train operators share some fuel.
Next slide, please.
The FY25 budget is 7% higher above the FY24 budget.
This budget will allow us to begin the transition
from the commuter rail to the regional rail.
So staff recommends that the committee recommend to the board
to conduct a public hearing,
adopt the proposed FY25 budget,
approve the FY 25 salary resolution approve the annual contract authority and
approve the proposed budget forecast for fiscal year
2026 through 2029
Thank you for your time, and I'm here to answer any questions you have
Thank you for your report. I appreciate that big budget big numbers
We'll start up here and find out if any of my colleagues have questions or comments.
Anybody that's zooming in, Ara, go ahead.
Yes.
Is there a technical distinction between regional rail and commuter rail?
Is there a hard, you know, miles or ridership or number of stations or frequency that makes
you move from commuter to regional? Director Najarian, it's Darren. Nothing
specific in either state or federal law. It is more of a philosophy than it is
anything in particular. In fact, federal law does clearly call out commuter rail.
We are still going to be following a commuter rail kind of program in the
sense that we have, you know, that that is how our funds flow and if we pursue
grants, they're generally commuter railroads are eligible for some of
those. There is no specificity towards something called regional rail. It is
just a movement that there really ourselves and our sister agencies across
the country, it's distinguished that we're not about necessarily just
commuters that it is a bigger picture than that.
And of course we're in this budget where we're going to be
increasing service to many of the other lines that we started
with the Antelope Valley line.
So perhaps if that's part of the term of art, that's something
we can really let people know that we are, we are expanding
frequencies, et cetera.
So thank you very much for that.
Thank you.
Any other questions?
Tony or John or no?
OK.
No, I'm good.
Thank you, Mr. Chair.
All right.
Do we have any public comments on this item?
No request to speak.
Anybody in the audience wishing to speak on this item?
All right, then.
Do we have a motion to move this item?
McAllen moves.
We have a motion by McAllen.
Trembly second.
And a second by Trembly.
Mr. Chairman, Director Murphy, comment.
Please go ahead.
Sorry to interrupt.
I'm gonna go ahead and vote the recommendation
as staff and OCTA does support this recommendation,
but I wanna make the following note.
That is the board heard the full FY25 OCTA budget proposal
on June the 10th.
They did continue the items,
so the vote will actually take place on Monday,
but I'm gonna go ahead and recommend it with the confidence
that things will move as we expect.
Excellent.
Thank you for sharing that.
We have a motion and a second.
It's time for a roll call vote, please.
Vice Chair McCallum.
Yes.
Director Murphy.
Yes.
Director Tremblay.
Yes.
Director Najarian.
Yes.
Chair Bergson.
Yes.
That motion carried unanimously.
Excellent.
Okay.
We'll move to item 6C,
the adoption of the proposed
Fiscal Year 2024 through 2025, Arrow Service Budget,
presented by Christine Wilson,
the Assistant Director of Finance.
Good morning, Chairman Bertzen
and members of the committee.
This is the budget recommendation of the adoption
of the proposed FY25 Arrow Service Budget.
Next slide, please.
The Arrow Budget for 2025 was brought
to the Audit and Finance Committee on April 12
to recommend transmission with the stipulation
that staff would continue to work with member agencies
to refine the budget.
Staff did work to refine this budget.
The budget presented to the board
for transmission reflected expenses
.6 million less than the budget brought
to the Audit and Finance Committee.
Next slide.
Oh, sorry, back one.
Assumptions used in developing the proposed budget
for ARRO include service level,
no change from FY 24, revenue and ridership based
on forecasts from Sperry Capital KPMG, no fare increases,
student adventure pass not included
in the fare projections, expense only is mandated
by existing contractual agreements.
Next slide, please.
You may recall we were also awaiting an update
to the arrow ridership projection
from Sperry Capital KPMG at the time
of the budget transmission.
This is a line chart depicting that forecast
for 23 through 29.
As you can see, they are predicting significant growth
through 2027, then a leveling off.
Next slide.
Next slide.
The preliminary, the proposed FY25 operating budget
for Arrow reflects operating revenue at 112,000.
Expenses of $15.7 million and increase of $0.7 million or 4.9%
from the FY24 Continuing Resolution.
Number agency support of $15.5 million and increase of $0.5
or 3.4% from the FY24 Continuing Resolution.
Next slide.
Next slide.
State of good repair and new capital.
New capital consists of a single project of $1.5 million
for the purchase of simulators to be used in DMU training
as required by the approved training plan.
Next slide, please.
Next slide.
As shown on this chart, the total FY25 support requested
is 17.0 million, consisting of 15.5 in operating support
and 1.5 million in new capital.
This budget request is a 13% over the total operating
and capital support for FY24.
Next slide, please.
Staff recommends that the committee recommend
that the board conduct a public hearing on this matter
at the June 28 board meeting
and adopt the proposed FY25 aero budget.
That concludes my report.
May I answer any questions?
Thank you for the report.
Do we have any comments or questions from my colleagues?
No.
Anybody on Zoom?
Seeing none.
Do we have any public comments
or anybody in the audience wishing to speak.
All right, this is an action item.
Do we have a motion to approve?
Move the item, Director Murphy.
McAllen second.
All right, we have a motion and a second.
A roll call vote please.
Vice Chair McAllen.
Yes.
Director Murphy.
Yes.
Director Trembley.
Yes.
Director Nijarian.
Yes.
Chair Bergson.
Yes.
That motion carried unanimously.
Excellent, thank you.
Item 6D.
The grants quarterly update, third quarter, fiscal year 2024,
this is a receive and file item presented
by Tom Shamber, Director of Grants.
Mr. Chair and members of the committee,
this is a receive and file item providing an update
of grant activities from January 1st
through March 31st of 2024.
Next slide please.
During the quarter, five grants totaling $150.6 million
were obtained, two regional grants were obtained
from the South Coast Air Quality Management District.
$59.3 million will fund the acquisition and pilot of two zero emissions locomotives to
replace tier two locomotives.
$87.4 million will fund the purchase of 12 additional tier four locomotives to replace
tier two locomotives.
Matching funds are currently being sought to complete the funding package needed to
purchase this rolling stock.
One new federal grant of $1.3 million was acquired from the US DOT Smart Grant Program
to fund the planning and development of an intrusion detection system to mitigate potential
strikes from people or vehicles on Metrolink systems.
Two separate earmarks, federal earmarks were obtained.
One for one million was obtained to augment the federal smart grant funding intrusion
detection system I just mentioned.
A second earmark of 1.6 million will fund the installation of wireless crossing technology
at multiple priority crossings throughout the system.
One state grant of 3.1 million was closed and funded the partial restoration of service
during the pandemic.
One regional grant of over $300,000 was closed.
That grant funded the purchase of an electric rail car mover to replace an old diesel car
mover.
3.2 million in grant funding was reprogrammed from closed projects with cost savings or other projects in the older projects in need of funding
This resulted in a total portfolio of 1.9 billion as of March 2024
That concludes my report. I'm happy to answer any questions
All right, very good. We that was a good report and we'd like to see those numbers this grant numbers coming in
Do we have any comments or questions from any of my colleagues here?
can you explain the technology behind the zero emissions locomotive and whether there's
any additional infrastructure we need to make that operable?
I selected a technology at this time. Yes, there would be infrastructure, but we don't
know what that infrastructure would be until we understand what the technology is. We are
currently working on that. There's a lot of folks around the
agency exploring all of those various technologies, whether it
be hydrogen battery, will continue to progress down that
path as we seek the funding.
Yeah, keep us posted on that technology because then everyone
talks about it. But we're not sure what the actual form is
going to look like. It's good you got the money for it though,
and whatever form it might be. Thank you.
The form is green.
Yeah.
Go ahead, Larry.
Thank you very much, Mr. Chair.
My understanding is that we potentially would be looking
at both technologies, electric,
battery as well as hydrogen fuel cell, but that's correct.
So we will need infrastructure for both of those if we do,
we will be doing as my understanding both electric
as well as hydrogen fuel cell.
Okay, any other comments from anybody, all right.
Any public comments received on this item?
Not on this item, okay.
Yes on this item or no on this item?
I appreciate it for that.
Was it pertained to this specific item?
Come on up, sir.
Just to remind you, you have three minutes.
Hi, I'm Donald Harlan, speaking on gen item number five,
the grants quarterly update, is that correct?
That is correct
Well, you know, I always have concerns that
people are trying to spend money that it's not real or
kind of spend money from the highway fund or something that they're not supposed to be spending or
Also, there's tourism committees trying to
Set up business importing illegal immigrants into the colleges over here
so many
difficult challenges with transportation, and inviting money in from people that
mean to do harm to Metrolink in California, United States. I just thought that maybe you
guys be careful about some of the consultants and some of the other things that are,
Some of the political people moving
through transportation, employment,
different types of things.
Yeah, the electric vehicles and the technology, hydrogen
technology, I have a supply chain
for lithium batteries and hydrogen
and all kinds of exotic gases that Metrolink
which should be allowed to access.
And but my concern is about the technology.
And I don't think the technology is developed enough
or is safe enough to be used on the rails.
I don't think electric battery powered trains are going to work.
Nobody wants to drive a battery powered train that
has to be charged every time you make a trip.
You know, the electric train goes one way and back,
and then it has to be recharged.
And that really isn't going to work at Metrolinx.
It creates too many other bureaucracy, too many other ads.
You have to add employees to maintain it.
It's a totally separate system, and that's nice.
There's money available for that,
but I don't think MetroLink's hurting for that.
I really don't want those kinds of trains on my rails
and I would have authorized MetroLink
to use discretion on whether or not to do that.
The other thing I was concerned about
is other rail companies that think they own the rails
that don't seem to be trying to cause problems
by creating programs like this.
Thank you, sir.
Appreciate your comments.
Did we have any other public comments
or those wishing to speak?
Seeing none, any last comments from my colleagues?
This was a receive and file item
and this was definitely on grants, quarterly update.
So we'll move to item 6E,
the fiscal year 24 financial results for the 10 months
ended April 30th, 2024,
the ridership revenue and operating results.
Also a receive and file item being presented
by Christine Wilson, the assistant director of finance.
Good morning again.
These are the financial results
for the 10 months ended April 30th, 2024.
Next slide, please.
This graph shows ridership performance
by month through April.
The red line is the ridership forecast
while the bars represent actual ridership.
The blue portion of the bar is regular ridership
while the orange portion of the bar
represents student adventure pass riders.
We are, as you can see, over forecast on ridership.
Next slide.
This graph represents a fare box revenue for each month.
As you can see, we are over budget on revenue
with the exception of December
when we had our system-wide shutdown.
This slide does include revenue
from the student adventure pass.
Next slide, please.
This slide shows the Fairbox revenue by month.
Through April, total Fairbox revenue was budgeted
at 29.1 million or a 45% recovery
compared to pre-COVID revenue.
Actual Fairbox revenue through April is 32.3 million
or 3.3 million over budget or a 51% recovery.
The amounts do include the student adventure pass
which contributed $1 million in the month of April
and 5.7 million year to date.
Next slide, please.
This chart shows ridership over the past 10 months.
Next slide, please.
Here we see the actual ridership numbers.
Through the 10 months, ridership was forecast
at 4.5 million or a 45% recovery.
The actual ridership is 5 million or a 51% recovery,
5.65,000 over budget.
Student Adventure Pass riders are included in these numbers
and account for 141,000 in the month
and 817,000 year-to-date.
In considering Student Adventure Pass ridership and revenue,
we need to remember that some of these students
already rode the train and have now switched
to the Student Adventure Pass.
Next slide, please.
Reviewing the operating statement.
Total operating revenue is $52.7 million or $8.1 million over plan.
Expenses are $207.4 million or $22.2 million below plan.
Next slide.
This slide shows the revenue section of the operating statement.
Displaying pro forma farebox revenue over budget by $3.7 million primarily
as a result of the student adventure pass.
The other significant item over budget is other revenue
in which budget is over by 3.7 million driven by interest revenue
as a result of the movement to more favorable interest rates.
Next slide, please.
Here we see the train operations expense portion
of the operating budget showing that these expenses are
under budget by 9.4 million or almost 7%.
Next slide, please.
Now we have the section covering maintenance away which is
under by 2.1 million or 5%.
Administration and services, which is under 8.8 million
or 18% and insurance and legal, which is under 1.9 million
or 11%.
Overall then, expenses are 231.9 million under budget
by 22.2 million or 9%.
Next slide.
This section shows the 117,000 we have netted
on unbudgeted special trains.
We also here, see here the current surplus of 30.5 million.
Next slide.
This slide shows our current receivable pass due in the amount of 53,
I'm saving the amount of 53.2 million.
The large amount there shown for LAMTA has actually already been paid.
Next slide.
This slide shows the SCRRA cash position, as you see in April,
we are over our $50 million threshold.
Next slide please.
Next slide.
Now to Aero Service.
Total fare box revenue for Aero Service through April is 199,000,
of which 36,000 was generated by the Student Adventure Pass.
Ridership for the 10 months is $95,000 with $32,000
contributed by the Student Adventure Pass.
Next slide.
The arrow operating statement shows $207,000
in operating revenue, expenses of $10.3 million
or $2.7 million under the continuing resolution
supporting the FY24 funding.
The expenses are $2.7 million below plan.
Support required is $2.9 million below plan.
Next slide.
Next slide.
Here we see the effects of the Student Adventure Pass
on ridership amongst the student riders.
Ridership October of 22 through April of 23 was 531,000.
Ridership of October of 23 through April of 24 was 849,000,
an increase of 60%.
And this slide shows the various effects
that the student adventure passes had on the various lines
in the Metrolinx system.
That concludes my report.
May I answer any questions?
Thank you for the report.
We appreciate that.
Do we have any comments from my colleagues on this item?
And do we have any public comments on this item?
We do have a request to speak
from Donald Harlan on this item.
Just a reminder, you'll have three minutes.
That's very generous, thank you.
I am Donald Harlan speaking on the financial results
for the past 10 months, or 10 months, ending April 30th.
It seems that the numbers are quite a bit off.
$9 million, to be off $9 million is quite a bit.
I support student passes where,
like the students are going to school.
We don't wanna charge students a bunch of money
if they're going to school, or they're going to do theirs.
I understand that, but just granting general passes
for students is gonna be a cost run.
And it seems that there's some play in there with Metro.
That somebody at Metro thinks they're spending money
that they're not in there, handing money back and forth,
saying, oh, no problem, the money's coming from Metro
for the MetroLink project, or the money's coming
for the Metro project and somebody's making some plays there trying to upset the finances
at Metro.
It's within your power to stop that and perhaps have the people that are sponsoring that.
But anyways, it seems that there's quite a few items in there that are off a significant
amount.
somebody double-spending says we're gonna set up
a billion dollars of alternate rule.
That's something else.
It's not a healthy posture for.
Anybody shows up like that?
That wants a problem, you know, tries to say hey,
we got a billion dollars of money we're gonna spend here.
You know, definitely show some force for the politicians.
Thank you for your comments.
Did we have any other requests to speak?
We do not.
John Dutray, your hand is up.
Yeah, thank you very much, Mr. Chairman.
Just a question on the $30 million surplus
staff mentioned about the electronic service.
Is that accrual?
Obviously, there's accruals involved in that surplus
over the 23 million in expense savings.
Yes, it certainly does involve accruals.
Not all the numbers are actual summer estimates.
All right, so don't celebrate yet.
Thank you.
Okay, thank you very much.
This is a receive and file item,
so unless there's any objection,
we will go ahead and receive and file this,
and move on to our most favorite part of the day,
our chief executive officer's report.
Mr. Kettle.
Thank you, Mr. Chair.
I have two items to share with committees today.
First, I'm gonna piggyback a little bit off
of what our grants director, Tom Shamber,
shared as it related to grants received,
and in particular a earmark that Metrolink received
for W-C-N-S-S or wireless crossing near side stop.
That's a mouthful, so we've shortened that
to smart crossings because it just,
it rolls off the tongue a little bit easier.
We informed the board about the great news
about how we launched new smart crossing technology
at San Juan, in San Juan Capistrano.
Of course, we wouldn't have started this had not been for the pioneering spirit of our
member agency at SBCTA that started the whole notion of these smart crossings in the segment
between San Bernardino and Redlands, but we've now taken that technology and we're starting
to put it throughout our system.
What I wanted to share with the committee was a comment that was shared in the Orange
County Register just to show the level of effort that went into trying to make sure
we're doing the right thing.
The quotes as follows, one of my first meetings as mayor was with OCTA and Metrolink in January
of 2023, San Juan Capistrano Councilmember Howard Hart who served as mayor in 2023.
I was in that meeting along with Don Felipe and Justin Fornelli and several members of
the OCTA staff. I walked into their orange offices expecting to be told that
fixing the ghost train problem was too hard or sometime in the distant future.
Instead I was presented with an implementation plan. In April 2023 OCTA
and Metrolink presented a proposed fix to the San Juan Capistrano City Council
and renovations began just a few months later. Its original completion date was
set for December of 2024.
But construction finished early in May.
OCTA and Metrolink have continued
to exceed my expectations, Hart said.
Not only did they stick to their implementation plan,
but knowing how important this is to our residents,
they've been over backward to accelerate
the installation by six months.
So that is just a recognition of the effort
that went into it.
I mentioned a few other names.
We had some real challenge.
We had difficulty trying to acquire radios
that were necessary to make this system work.
And I mentioned a couple other names.
I cannot go without mentioning the name of Luis Carrasquaro,
our deputy chief operating officer
who handles so much of the technology side of things
on the operating side.
So Luis is here, Dawn, Justin,
the whole team put that together.
Members of Justin's program delivery team really stepped up.
So this is a great news story for us across the board.
And our plan is I think we have some 40 odd
of these types of crossings throughout our system.
And we're gonna put together the funding
and we're gonna deliver more of these
because they are very much supportive of the community.
So again, thanks team for making us look good.
My last is just a bit of a, on a sad note,
I did share with the board earlier this week
that we have a chief that is departing us.
We are not going to have many more safety briefings
from our chief of safety security and compliance,
Frank Kastelon.
Frank is gonna be departing Metrolink
in a couple of weeks.
So we wish Frank the best in his new adventure.
He is not yet at liberty to share it,
but he assures me he has someplace else to go
and he's not just jumping ship.
And then lastly, as it relates to that,
I mentioned that I did ask a member of our team
to step in on the interim role, that's Tim Morehead.
Tim is in the back of the room.
We'll be doing a presentation later today on another item.
He's our Director of Track and Signal Infrastructure Maintenance,
but does have certifications in a number of safety elements,
so he will be taking on that interim role.
Mr. Chair, that concludes my remarks.
Thank you.
All right.
Thank you for sharing.
Let's move to Committee Member Comments.
Larry?
Yeah, Mr. Chair, if I might.
I went to the APTA conference just recently in Cleveland,
And during the opening session, Metrolinx Student Adventure Pass was highlighted
in the opening montage of visual stuff, so that was very nice of them to do that.
And also, I was expecting Darren to talk about we were awarded three sort of safety things.
There are certificates or whatever.
I don't recall what they are, but maybe you do.
Not off the top of my head, but Mr. Castellan may recall it.
He's still with us, so hopefully he can share with those.
I don't recall, I remember them, but not by name.
I haven't been escorted out, so we did actually receive three awards,
as Chair McCallum mentions, in the area of safety, security, and emergency management.
So three separate categories.
So we received recognition for the work that we've done previously over the past year.
Won't get into specifics, but getting that recognition for map to especially three categories
I think we were the only agency to accomplish that so I expect great things for this organization
I'm sad to leave it, but I also feel confident in our future related to technology and reducing some of the incidents and events
We've had particularly trespasser strikes. I'm confident. We'll we'll see some changes in the future because of that
any questions
Very good. Thank you very much. I'm glad you remembered what I was all about
Anyway, it was great. We had a couple of people presenting there
Sustainability program and
I forgotten the other one
We had customer experience with hitting Eichler. I understood you said you sat right in front of him
I'm like in the second row. He said he was intimidated as heck
Well, I didn't throw anything at him very good
They all did a great job, and I was proud of them. Thank you
All right, very good. Any uh any of members on zoom?
seeing none I
Have no comments today other than
Happy Father's Day to all the fathers out there, and we will adjourn this meeting at 9 42. Thank you